oh my, 14 cars for half a mil

"ToyDeathbot" (ToyDeathbot)
05/11/2014 at 22:12 • Filed to: None

-Jaguar E Type
-DeLorean x2
-DeTomaso Pantera
-Ford Sierra Cosworth 4dr
-Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
-Ford XY Falcon GT Replica
-Chev Monza
-Lotus Elite
-Manta
-Plymouth Hot Road 1947
-Ferrari Dino 308
-Porsche 928
-AC Cobra
-Pulse Jet car (not street legal)

If only I had the monies! Also, is that Jag a Series I?

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DISCUSSION (13)

jkm7680 > ToyDeathbot
05/11/2014 at 22:17

NP. That's a great little starter collection, Haha.

Aaron James > ToyDeathbot
05/11/2014 at 22:20

The cobra is worth that if it's real and documented. I smell a scam.

CAR_IS_MI > ToyDeathbot
05/11/2014 at 22:24

Ford Sierra Cosworth 4dr

-Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500

Saw this and knew it wasn't in America, because everything I want is not in fucking America.

Your boy, BJR > ToyDeathbot
05/11/2014 at 22:25

NP. ESPECIALLY SINCE A 928 IS INCLUDED!!!! (I adore those cars.)

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > ToyDeathbot
05/11/2014 at 22:25

Ahh yes, the Plymouth Hot Road.

ToyDeathbot > Aaron James
05/11/2014 at 22:27

it's most definitely a replica, but judging by the other stuff in the collection, I don't think it's just any ordinary kit car

Aaron James > ToyDeathbot
05/11/2014 at 22:39

He states the falcon is a replica but doesn't say the Cobra is, Who knows.

CAcoalminer > CAR_IS_MI
05/11/2014 at 22:57

My dilemma as well.

JGrabowMSt > Aaron James
05/11/2014 at 23:18

There was one (1) RHD Shelby Cobra sent to NZ. It was a continuation series, so it's all original, but assembled after 1990. It would have a SCX4xxx number, but the VIN and parts would match any other original 1965 car. The pictures aren't really enough to tell though, so it could honestly be anything.

I will say that the sideview mirror (hard to see from the pics, but you can see it), is not a Shelby Cobra mirror, so I would say it's a kit. The mirror is period correct, but not the same used on the Cobras. Lots of replicas use the same mirror, and it simply isn't the same as the originals.

If there were a picture of the interior, original cobras had the batteries behind the seats. Replicas have them in the trunk. That includes Superformance, Factory Five, and just about every other replica Cobra, the battery isn't in the original location, primarily due to safety.

Aaron James > JGrabowMSt
05/11/2014 at 23:29

Good info, you're right we can only speculate. I think the continuation Cobra's sell for around 100-150K?

anothermiatafanboy > ToyDeathbot
05/11/2014 at 23:56

Its things like this that make it so hard for me to comprehend the hypercars selling for 1-3 million bucks. If its my money (and it most certainly is not), id be getting a mix of older and newer hoonmobiles (Integra Type R, Boss 302, Evo 9 MR, NSX, E46 M3 for a start ha). Just the sheer amount of cool you can attain for the price of one P1 is eye opening. Alas, millionaires and broke 23 year olds rarely see eye to eye.

JGrabowMSt > Aaron James
05/12/2014 at 01:01

It depends on the continuation series Cobra. Shelby American assembled cars are completely different from all of the others, and despite having SCX4xxx numbers, they are original parts, registered as original cars, and several are worth millions, while most sit in the high six figure range. An important note is that some of these cars were "snuck" into production, badged as 40th anniversary cars, but oddly enough, built and registered some time before the 40th anniversary cars were announced and made available to the "public." The difference between the Shelby American cars and all the other cars is the hand hammered aluminum body. No replica, licensed or unlicensed will be bodied with one. Even some originals that have been restored don't have the original bodies. One I saw up in New Canaan, a verified original with the window sticker and all had a reproduction aluminum body (restoration was completed in the 1980s). The only way to visually tell them apart is to stick your head into the fender and look for the hammer mark, because they will be obvious.

The various licensed replicas are what sell for the 100-150k range. There's two main ones, I forget the other one, but Superformance is one of them. Unlicensed replicas can still fetch upwards of 50-80k in finished form.

For what it's worth, and this isn't really confirmed, and likely never will be, but somewhere there should be a warehouse full of original, unfinished 1964-1966 Shelby Cobras (I believe primarily 427s) pretty much boxed up, ready to be assembled. Why aren't they assembled and sold? Because current owners of original cars would hate to see the value of the cars go down. To have another 150-200 Shelby Cobras pop out of the wood works (pun intended), would lower the value of all the existing original cars. Shelby is sitting on what could be tens of millions of dollars of cars, simply because it would affect the value of the currently existing ones. There are plenty of people who would disagree, but having spoken to ex Shelby employees, if an original car needed work, there's no scrambling to source an original part for them. There's a big hefty bill, and a part is found.

There's quite an amount of misinformation about the cars, it's hard to sort through fact vs fiction, simply because many sources say different things. Considering my dad owned more than one, and I've been able to talk with people who worked alongside Carroll Shelby himself, I think I've got a good handle on most of the information, and can tell the originals apart fairly easily. The hard part is production numbers, and the special versions that were built. That's where confusion comes in, and it's best to just ask someone who can check the Shelby Registry.

Spoon II > ToyDeathbot
05/12/2014 at 01:27

The Delorean x2 gets a big old slow clap from this guy! *clappity clappity*